MSI RTX 4060 Ti Gaming X Trio 8G: Extra efficient and quiet

Methodology: how we measure power draw

A mid-range of graphics cards with Nvidia GPU has finally been added to the Ada Lovelace generation. The intergenerational speed increase is relatively lower with the RTX 4060 Ti, but the power draw has dropped significantly and the overall operating characteristics are pleasing. Especially when it comes to designs similar to the MSI Gaming X Trio with a well oversized cooler. Three fans, power draw under 170W, and gaming performance well above the Radeon RX 6650 XT.

Methodology: how we measure power draw

We have been tuning the method of measuring power draw for quite a long time and we will also be tuning it for some time. But we already have gimmicks that we can work with happily.

To get the exact value of the total power draw of the graphics card, it is necessary to map the internal power draw on the PCI Express slot and the external one on the additional power supply. For the analysis of the PCIe slot, it was necessary to construct an in-between card on which the power draw measurement takes place. Its basis is resistors calibrated to the exact value (0.1 Ω) and according to the amount of their voltage drop we can calculate the current. We then substitute it into the formula for the corresponding value of the output voltage ~ 12 V and ~ 3.3 V. The voltage drop is so low that it doesn’t make the VRM of the graphics card unstable and the output is still more than 12/3.3 V.

We measure power consumption on the card between the graphics card and the PCI Express slot. Rado Kopera took care of the design and implementation (thank you!)

We are also working on a similar device for external power supply. However, significantly higher currents are achieved there, longer cabling and more passages between connectors are necessary, which means that the voltage drop will have to be read on an even smaller resistance of 0.01 Ω, the current state (with 0.1 Ω) is unstable for now. Until we fine-tune it, we will use Prova 15 current clamp for cable measurements, which also measures with good accuracy, they just have a range of up to 30 A. But that is also enough for the OC version of the RTX 3090 Gaming X Trio. If a card is over the range, it is always possible to split the consumption measurement (first into one half and then into the other half of the 12 V conductors).

And why bother with such devices at all when Nvidia has a PCAT power draw analyzer? For complete control over the measurements. While our devices are transparent, the Nvidia’s tool uses the processor that can (but of course does not have to) affect the measurements. After testing the AMD graphics card on the Nvidia’s tool, we probably wouldn’t sleep well.

To read and record measurements, we use a properly calibrated multimeter Keysight U1231A, which exports samples to XLS. From it we obtain the average value and by substituting into the formula with the exact value of the subcircuit output voltages we obtain the data for the graphs.

   

We will analyze the line graphs with the waveforms for each part of the power supply separately. Although the 3.3 V value is usually negligible, it needs to be monitored. It is difficult to say what exactly this subcircuit powers, but usually the consumption on it is constant and when it changes only with regard to whether a static or dynamic image is rendered. We measure consumption in two sort of demanding games (F1 2020 and Shadow of the Tomb Raider) and one less demanding one (CS:GO) with the highest graphic details preset and UHD resolution (3840 × 2560 px). Then in 3D rendering in Blender using the Cycles renderer on the famous Classroom scene. However, in addition to high-load tests, it’s important to know your web browser consumption (which, in our case, is accelerated Google Chrome), where we also spend a lot of time watching videos or browsing the web. The usual average load of this type is represented by the FishIE Tank (HTML5) website with 20 fish and the web video in our power draw tests is represented by a sample with the VP9 codec, data rate of 17.4 mb/s and 60 fps. In contrast, we also test offline video consumption, in VLC player on a 45 HEVC sample (45.7 mb/s, 50 fps). Finally, we also record the power consumption of the graphics card on the desktop of idle Windows 10 with one or two active UHD@60 Hz monitors.


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  1. What’s the minimum non-zero RPM? I’ve heard that it’s 850-860 for Gaming X Trio and Supreme models. Have you encountered any other models that can spin below 1000 RPM?

    I find it impractical for the GPU to operate below 60 degrees Celsius, especially since NVIDIA GPUs don’t have hotspot temps much higher. Some other models enforce a 1000-1300 RPM minimum and since Navi 3 you can’t edit this value with 3rd party software for any of the manufacturers, which makes the limit a disaster for whoever wants to play a less demanding title in the evening.

    1. The minimum/starting speed of the 4060 Ti Gaming X Trio, as far as the starting limit of the default PWM control curve is concerned, is about 780 rpm. But even at lower loads and low GPU temps, when even hotspots are well below 50 °C (typically the load corresponding to 3D rendering@CUDA in Blender), the speed quickly stabilizes at around 1050 rpm.

      Looking at the logs of the quietest graphics cards we’ve tested, a similar pattern holds true. The speed already exceeds 1000 rpm in lower load (although sometimes only by lower tens of rpm), while the starting speeds start even below 600 rpm. The fans stay at these but only for one or two seconds and stabilize only at speeds easily exceeding 1000 rpm. The final speed of course also depends on the intensity of the system cooling. In PC setups with extremely high air flow or in environments with low room air temperature (significantly below 21 °C) the speed will probably be in triple digits. 🙂

      On the basis of lower starting speeds below 1000 rpm it can be seen that there is room for manual control (with user adjustment of PWM curve) in non-reference cards.

      1. So it’s a 760 RPM sustained speed that can be set as a flat line with Afterburner if I understood correctly. Not bad, not perfect either. Especially if I undervolt, possibly underclock too for less coil whine, and the fan keeps turning on and off due to low temp.

        From GPUs tested so far, do you think that the fan design and quality in MSI Suprim and Gaming Trio cards has any real competition at the low RPM? Based on some reviews, ASUS TUF comes to my mind, but they tend to have a bad coil whine and are usually poorly priced.

        1. Yes, at least at those 760–780 rpm it will be able to be set fixed. Maybe even less, as long as the start-up speed at the boundary between passive and active mode is not the lower limit of what the fans start at in PWM control.

          I really wouldn’t dare claim who has the more efficient cooler. They all try to give key details that increase efficiency at the level of fans and heatsink. Unless someone is using really shorter stiff blades (like Gigabyte does for example) without significant vibration at the tips, the blades are joint at least two together, which is probably enough to significantly reduce vibration and tonal peaks.

          For example this RTX 4060 Ti has an effective cooler, but the overall performance is spoiled by the average noise of the coils. Surely there is a design with quieter coils, which will be acoustically more pleasant even with an eventual lower effectiveness of the used cooler. A good example can be Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC 24G, which has “quiet” coils and the cooler does not have to be the most powerful at the same noise level and still the result will be perfect. Especially after manual control with speed reduction. Just Gigabyte slightly overdoes the PWM regulation (in order to reduce the number of complaints), although it seems that in this generation it is already a bit softer – RTX 4090 Gaming OC 24G is a significantly quieter graphics card with higher power draw from the fans than Aorus RTX 3080 Xtreme 10G.

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